Douglas Misicko alias Douglas Mesner update

We recommend you read these pages before reading this page:

These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Mesner and another alias have continued using the same and similar personal insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them. One alias attacks SMART stating it is a “for-profit” business. SMART is a type of not for profit business, with no salaries whatsoever.  Any surplus is used to help SMART continue its work to educate the public about child abuse and ritual abuse issues.

An alias states in essence that Neil Brick promotes the idea that the abuse of a child could be the cause of anything other than dysfunctional traits (when discussing how survivors may be tortured to do other roles) and that this is equal to saying that child abuse is beneficial for its victims. Neither SMART nor Neil Brick have ever stated child abuse is beneficial in anyway. SMART and Neil Brick’s strong stance is that child abuse is always traumatic to its victims.

An alias makes a statement that SMART and Neil Brick are attempting to silence skeptics. This is clearly false. There have been skeptics debating in the ritual abuse field for years. .

Mesner criticizes the excellent study on extreme abuse survivors, found at with more than 2000 respondents with a large questionnaire developed by several experienced researchers in the field.  This excellent preliminary study gives extreme abuse survivors a voice and shows how large this problem is.

One of the aliases even makes a bizarre connection between the Arizona shooter and child abuse and ritual abuse survivors and their advocates, stating that those fighting to expose and stop ritual abuse crimes postings could be potentially dangerous and incite people with psychological problems.

Mesner continues to make the false claim comparing alien abductions to ritual abuse cases. The fact is that there have been criminal convictions for crimes with ritual abuse elements and ritual abuse survivors suffer from the severe trauma symptoms survivors of extreme abuse do.

Mesner criticizes survivors of child abuse and ritual abuse for leaving comments at message boards, which they do to defend themselves and even for voting on comments. He criticizes the fact that survivor websites (that are working to expose child abuse and ritual crimes) do not allow comments. The reason for this is the repeated name calling, personal insults and harassment of child abuse and ritual abuse survivors.

An alias discusses the The Utah Ritual Abuse Task Force report at

The alias does not mention that report states the following points of evidence from local and national sources:
“Independent identification, by victims unknown to each other, of the same perpetrators.”
“Successful prosecution of cases of child abuse which contain indisputable elements of ritual abuse.”

The alias criticizes the Conviction List: Ritual Child Abuse at
ignoring that fact that several of these cases had documented ritual elements.

The alias criticizes a chapter from Cult and Ritual Abuse called “Empirical Evidence of Ritual Abuse” at
The alias disregards almost all of the solid research in the chapter focusing on one quote that the alias claims was taken out of context.